Voron Headbed - Versionsgeschichte

Admin am 6. Februar 2026 um 15:42 Uhr

2026-02-06T15:42:18Z

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	The reason seems to be using the heatbed at 120deg for drying silika for a long time-period (> 8h).		The reason seems to be using the heatbed at 120deg for drying silika for a long time-period (> 8h).

	Now I want to replace the heatplate of the bed, which smells like that bad taste.		In the meantime - like shown below - I build up the heat resistors.
			Result: works like a glance, the bad smell is gone.


			<s>Now I want to replace the heatplate of the bed, which smells like that bad taste.</s>

	Fabreeko offers heatbeds with suitable adhesive, or probably even without. But they are currently out of stock		Fabreeko offers heatbeds with suitable adhesive, or probably even without. But they are currently out of stock
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	BOM:		BOM:
	* 50W 100 Ohm resistors 75 Stk. ~45,- Eur		* 50W 100 Ohm resistors 30 Stk. ~45,- Eur
	* HY510 ~6,- Eur (30g (>10ml), but only 3ml needed)		* HY510 ~6,- Eur (30g (>10ml), but only 3ml needed)
	* M3x6 75 Stk 7,- Eur		* M3x6 75 Stk 7,- Eur
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	Uncountable amount of coffee and time excluded from this calculation makes it more cheap, than the Fabreeko silicon heater		Uncountable amount of coffee and time excluded from this calculation makes it more cheap, than the Fabreeko silicon heater

	~~TODO show foto of my thermo camera for two different temperatures.~~

	~~TODO show heating curve + stabilisation with calibrated PID (+/- 0.1 deg for 70 and 100° celsius as initial result)~~

Admin am 23. Januar 2026 um 15:07 Uhr

2026-01-23T15:07:44Z

← Nächstältere Version		Version vom 23. Januar 2026, 15:07 Uhr
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	Temperature measurement with thermo camera shows convincing results:		Temperature measurement with thermo camera shows convincing results:
	The temperature in the back and front are too low. This is probably due to the Ventilator of the Nevermore. Unluckily I do not have a photo, when the original LDO heater was equipped.		The temperature in the back and front are too low. This is probably due to the Ventilator of the Nevermore. Unluckily I do not have a photo, when the original LDO heater was equipped.
	[[File:Xinf_260121_210333_090_wiki.jpg\|800px\|temperature measurement]]
			[[File:Xinf_260121_210333_090_wiki.jpg\|800px\|temperature using thermocam]]

			temperature and heater curve, when heating up from room temperature to 110°C (230 F) from klippy.log

			[[File:klippy_T110curve.png\|800px\|temperature measurement]]

Admin am 23. Januar 2026 um 14:50 Uhr

2026-01-23T14:50:06Z

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	[[File:20251226_120024.jpg\|800px\|The first two are done]]		[[File:20251226_120024.jpg\|800px\|The first two are done]]

	[[File:20251227_130642.jpg\|800px\|All M3 done]]		[[File:20251227_130642.jpg\|800px\|All M3 done]]

	[[File:20251228_114337.jpg\|800px\|Alltogether]]		[[File:20251228_114337.jpg\|800px\|Alltogether]]


	The aluminum block in the middle was foreseen to hold a PT1000 and a second 3950 thermistor		The aluminum block in the middle was foreseen to hold a PT1000 and a second 3950 thermistor

Admin am 23. Januar 2026 um 14:49 Uhr

2026-01-23T14:49:21Z

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	[[File:20251226_120024.jpg\|~~1024px~~\|The first two are done]]		[[File:20251226_120024.jpg\|800px\|The first two are done]]
	[[File:20251227_130642.jpg\|~~1024px~~\|All M3 done]]		[[File:20251227_130642.jpg\|800px\|All M3 done]]
	[[File:20251228_114337.jpg\|~~1024px~~\|Alltogether]]		[[File:20251228_114337.jpg\|800px\|Alltogether]]

	The aluminum block in the middle was foreseen to hold a PT1000 and a second 3950 thermistor		The aluminum block in the middle was foreseen to hold a PT1000 and a second 3950 thermistor
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	[[File:20251229_175255.jpg\|~~1024px~~\|New bedheater in action]]		[[File:20251229_175255.jpg\|800px\|New bedheater in action]]


	Temperature measurement with thermo camera shows convincing results:		Temperature measurement with thermo camera shows convincing results:
	The temperature in the back and front are too low. This is probably due to the Ventilator of the Nevermore. Unluckily I do not have a photo, when the original LDO heater was equipped.		The temperature in the back and front are too low. This is probably due to the Ventilator of the Nevermore. Unluckily I do not have a photo, when the original LDO heater was equipped.
	[[File:Xinf_260121_210333_090_wiki.jpg\|~~1024px~~\|temperature measurement]]		[[File:Xinf_260121_210333_090_wiki.jpg\|800px\|temperature measurement]]

Admin am 23. Januar 2026 um 14:48 Uhr

2026-01-23T14:48:36Z

← Nächstältere Version		Version vom 23. Januar 2026, 14:48 Uhr
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	[[File:20251229_175255.jpg\|1024px\|New bedheater in action]]		[[File:20251229_175255.jpg\|1024px\|New bedheater in action]]


			Temperature measurement with thermo camera shows convincing results:
			The temperature in the back and front are too low. This is probably due to the Ventilator of the Nevermore. Unluckily I do not have a photo, when the original LDO heater was equipped.
			[[File:Xinf_260121_210333_090_wiki.jpg\|1024px\|temperature measurement]]

Admin am 3. Januar 2026 um 22:20 Uhr

2026-01-03T22:20:36Z

Admin am 3. Januar 2026 um 22:18 Uhr

2026-01-03T22:18:37Z

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	[[File:20251227_130642.jpg\|1024px\|All M3 done]]		[[File:20251227_130642.jpg\|1024px\|All M3 done]]
	[[File:20251228_114337.jpg\|1024px\|Alltogether]]		[[File:20251228_114337.jpg\|1024px\|Alltogether]]
	~~Note:~~ The aluminum block in the middle was foreseen to hold a PT1000 and a second 3950 thermistor
			The aluminum block in the middle was foreseen to hold a PT1000 and a second 3950 thermistor
	but first measurements have shown, that a 3mm hole in the middle of the back of the aluminum plate serves better and faster for the PID.		but first measurements have shown, that a 3mm hole in the middle of the back of the aluminum plate serves better and faster for the PID.

Admin am 3. Januar 2026 um 22:17 Uhr

2026-01-03T22:17:14Z

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 Before starting the build, I estimated, the temperature fluctuation due to the distance of the load-resistors: [[Voron_TempFluct]]
 [[File:20251226_120024.jpg|1024px|The first two are done]]
 [[File:20251227_130642.jpg|1024px|All M3 done]]
 [[File:20251228_114337.jpg|1024px|Alltogether]]
 [[File:20251229_175255.jpg|1024px|New bedheater in action]]

Admin am 3. Januar 2026 um 20:41 Uhr

2026-01-03T20:41:02Z

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	This smell is really horrible and spreads arround in the complete house.		This smell is really horrible and spreads arround in the complete house.

	The reason seems to be using the heatbed at 120deg for drying silika for a long time-period (~~approx~~ 8h).		The reason seems to be using the heatbed at 120deg for drying silika for a long time-period (> 8h).

	Now I want to replace the heatplate of the bed.		Now I want to replace the heatplate of the bed, which smells like that bad taste.

	Fabreeko offers heatbeds with suitable ~~glue~~, or probably even without. But they are currently out of stock		Fabreeko offers heatbeds with suitable adhesive, or probably even without. But they are currently out of stock
	and I dont know how to order from ~~germany~~ (probably quite expensive, when including shipping and taxes)		and I dont know how to order from Germany (probably quite expensive, when including shipping and taxes)

	~~Does anyone has experience in using heatresistors for heating a 3D printer bed?~~		The idea raised up, to use heatresistors as replacement for the silicon mate.
	My idea ~~is as follows:~~
	~~Drill 60 M3 threads into the back of the Aluminiumplate~~ to ~~fix 30×50W~~ heatresistors~~, which should be sufficient~~ for ~~heating with 450W~~.
	~~I would like to give that a try, but:~~
	* Is there any conductive paste on the market, which does not smell (!)
	* Does this work with the cartographer probe?
	* Any other possible trouble, I have overseen?

	~~I ordered~~ 30 ~~100Ohm~~ resistors ~~+ HY510 thermal conductive paste and a few meter silkoncable~~		30 times 100 Ohm resistors (50 W) were skrewed to the aluminum plate into
	~~Isolation is planned by using~~ the ~~outer insulator~~ of the ~~3 wire silikoncables and glue them by using kapton-adhesive~~		60 M3 threads drilled into the back of the plate. This should be much more than enough to heat with approx 600 Watt.
	~~Thermistor is not yet planned, probably an old one of my extruder, with a drilling at the side of the print-bed~~.		The resistors were connected 5 in series 6 times in parallel makes (500/6 Ohm = 83 Ohm). P=U²/R=230^2/83 Watt=640 Watt.

	~~Estimation of the~~ temperature ~~fluctuation due to~~ the ~~distance of~~ the ~~load~~-~~resistors: [[Voron_TempFluct]]~~		HY510 was used as conductive paste, which seems to be a good compromise between quality and price.
			This conductive paste can be used in a temperature range, which is far outside the usual use-cases for a 3D printer.
			The 5 series resistors very soldered directly together, the endconnection was done via silconcables and wago-clamps

			Before starting the build, I estimated, the temperature fluctuation due to the distance of the load-resistors: [[Voron_TempFluct]]

	[[File:20251228_114337.jpg]]		[[File:20251226_120024.jpg\|1024px\|The first two are done]]
			[[File:20251227_130642.jpg\|1024px\|All M3 done]]
			[[File:20251228_114337.jpg\|1024px\|Alltogether]]
			[[File:20251229_175255.jpg\|1024px\|New bedheater in action]]

Uwedamm am 2. Januar 2026 um 22:22 Uhr

2026-01-02T22:22:05Z

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	Estimation of the temperature fluctuation due to the distance of the load-resistors: [[Voron_TempFluct]]		Estimation of the temperature fluctuation due to the distance of the load-resistors: [[Voron_TempFluct]]


			[[File:20251228_114337.jpg]]

← Nächstältere Version		Version vom 3. Januar 2026, 22:20 Uhr
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	BOM:		BOM:
	50W 100 Ohm resistors 75 Stk. ~45,- Eur		* 50W 100 Ohm resistors 75 Stk. ~45,- Eur
	HY510 ~6,- Eur (30g (>10ml), but only 3ml needed)		* HY510 ~6,- Eur (30g (>10ml), but only 3ml needed)
	M3x6 75 Stk 7,- Eur		* M3x6 75 Stk 7,- Eur
	Silicon cable 2m 5,- Eur		* Silicon cable 2m 5,- Eur
	T-fuse (125° 15 A) reused from Voron 5,-		* T-fuse (125° 15 A) reused from Voron 5,-
	3950 thermistor (reused) 5,- Eur		* 3950 thermistor (reused) 5,- Eur
	M3 thread whirling tool 5,- Eur (Used to CNC mill the M3 threads)		* M3 thread whirling tool 5,- Eur (Used to CNC mill the M3 threads)
	D2 end milling cutter 5,- Eur		* D2 end milling cutter 5,- Eur
	D4 shaft for my CNC motor 9,- Eur		* D4 shaft for my CNC motor 9,- Eur
	wago clamp 2 Stk 5 each 2,- Eur		* wago clamp 2 Stk 5 each 2,- Eur

	Sum: 94,- Eur		Sum: 94,- Eur

	Uncountable amount of coffee and time excluded from this calculation makes it more cheap, than the Fabreeko silicon heater		Uncountable amount of coffee and time excluded from this calculation makes it more cheap, than the Fabreeko silicon heater

	TODO show foto of my thermo camera for two different temperatures.		TODO show foto of my thermo camera for two different temperatures.

	TODO show heating curve + stabilisation with calibrated PID (+/- 0.1 deg for 70 and 100° celsius as initial result)		TODO show heating curve + stabilisation with calibrated PID (+/- 0.1 deg for 70 and 100° celsius as initial result)

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	The aluminum block in the middle was foreseen to hold a PT1000 and a second 3950 thermistor		The aluminum block in the middle was foreseen to hold a PT1000 and a second 3950 thermistor

	but first measurements have shown, that a 3mm hole in the middle of the back of the aluminum plate serves better and faster for the PID.		but first measurements have shown, that a 3mm hole in the middle of the back of the aluminum plate serves better and faster for the PID.